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 Post subject: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:35 am 

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Hi guys, looking for a bit of help here.

Playing in a band again for first time in years, now playing much heavier stuff and thinking I need to get some new gear. The pedal I have at the moment is a Marshall bluesbreaker 2, looking to replace it with something with a bit more gain.

I own one of these -

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG1Oq5MYuhY[/youtube]

However, due to the really shitty on off switch it is really only useful for recording with. Plus its pretty old so is really noisy! Love the sound of it though, has a 12AX7 tube in it - really versatile pedal. Not looking for full on fuzz thus not asked in that thread, I use my fenders mainly in this new band so looking to keep a bit of bite for the back pickups if I want the option.

Budget is about £100 ($160).

I thank all you kind and knowledgable gents in advance.


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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:22 am 
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A Couple Questions:

1) What kind of music are you playing/What kind of sound are you looking for?

2) What are you running for an amp/amps & cabs?


I use a few dirt pedals. Things you may want to check out:

Catalinbread Supercharged Overdrive

Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret

Boss DS-1 always had a good distortion, but low output. Analogman does some awesome mods, or you can buy a pre-modded one. (www.buyanalogman.com)

Analogman AstroTone Fuzz (Kind of a cross between fuzz & distortion)-you can get some non fuzz tones out of it pretty easily, and it cuts well in a mix.

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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:32 am 

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Thanks for the reply sir, in answer to your questions -

1) Stoner rock/metal ala Halfway to Gone/House of Broken Promises.

2) JCM 800 2204/JCM 900 4500 with either a 4 x 12 loaded with greenbacks or 2 x 12 and vintage 30s. Strat/tele/SG for guitars.

Thanks for the links, have never got on with boss pedals - not sure why.

Liking the sound of the Supercharged overdrive pedal you mentioned, sadly only seems to be one retailer stocking Catalinbread in the UK and they don't bloody have that pedal!


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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:54 am 
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You can probably find an SCOD on Ebay UK. Buy it now/New in the box kind of deal.

I love that pedal. Does pretty much anything you want it to do. Also, if you layer another overdrive in front, you can get some really awesome tones!


http://cgi.ebay.com/Catalinbread-Super- ... 4155301f1a


They will ship it to you.

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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:36 am 

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Thanks again, will certainly bear it in mind. Fits the budget, just!


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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:37 am 

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Do you do mods? They're fairly easy to do once you have the knowledge. A Boss Blues Driver makes an excellent project, because it cleans up well, but still has tons of gain where it's almost a fuzz at higher gain levels. On a cheap budget, the Marshall Jackhammer is good, because it has lots of gain if needed, plus the bass and treble knobs come in handy.....some pedals don't have a bass knob. A Rat or Turbo Rat is always a great pedal on a budget, too.

If you have more cash, the ZVex Box of Rock has a good range of tones. Wampler has a few pedals like the Pinnacle and Plextortion that are very good, if you have a higher budget. The Lovepedal Superlead is great, too, as is the Kalamazoo. I use a Fuchs Valve Job which is great for lower gain to somewhat saturated overdriven/ distorted sounds.


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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:37 pm 

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Been a while since I modded a pedal, could give it a try I guess. My brother has pointed me in direction of a UK company called Blackstar, said he knows a few guys who use them. Anyone hear ever heard of them?

Can get this pedal for under my budget, a valve one too -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toagqd0508A


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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:49 pm 
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I highly suggest one of these:

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http://cusackmusic.com/wp/?page_id=11


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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:09 pm 

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Check my pedal, link below. It may be what you're looking for.

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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:26 am 

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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:10 pm 

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A few clips of the Pharaoh:

Heavy gain:LP tuned Bstandard into a 68 Sunn Spectrum
http://soundcloud.com/the-riffer/pharao ... b-standard

Med Gain: SG, standard(ish) tuning, into a 75 SilverFace Twin:
http://soundcloud.com/the-riffer/pharao ... trols-on-6

Light gain/ treble boost style: Sg into the SF twin
http://soundcloud.com/the-riffer/pharoa ... st-sf-twin

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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:36 am 

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The Riffer wrote:
A few clips of the Pharaoh:

Heavy gain:LP tuned Bstandard into a 68 Sunn Spectrum
http://soundcloud.com/the-riffer/pharao ... b-standard

Med Gain: SG, standard(ish) tuning, into a 75 SilverFace Twin:
http://soundcloud.com/the-riffer/pharao ... trols-on-6

Light gain/ treble boost style: Sg into the SF twin
http://soundcloud.com/the-riffer/pharoa ... st-sf-twin


Wow, that sounds great! It seems like it has more clarity than most fuzzes, really distortion-like, but still wooly enough to have the looseness of a fuzz. Looks super cool, too! What's the lowdown on the circuit--what's it based on, and what's do the switches do?


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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:30 am 

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Thanks!!

It is based on the BMP circuit , obviously tuned differently. Has some conceptual nods to tonebenders and a modified tone circuit. The switches control the amount of gain and compression. In my blog is a link to a pdf manual I put together with more detail and some graphs showing the frequency responses of different knob settings.

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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:53 pm 

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Sounds like my kinda thing. I think they're $125? What's the availability of them? I'm not sure if I have the cash right now, but probably in the near future--i'm always down for supporting community members that hand build effects/ fuzzes. The circuit/ build quality looks great, and the graphics/ build of the exterior of the pedal is something that i'd be interested in picking up, myself.


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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:19 pm 

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Thanks!

130.00 shipped

I will have a few available by Xmas.

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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:08 pm 

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Riffer, you got any idea what the cost of shipping one to the UK would be? As I really love the sound of the pedal, but sadly anything from America seems to cost a bomb in postage - as I never fit in to standard UK postage. Live on an island off the north coast of scotland, can be a pain in the arse... Can't order perfume off amazon, fuckers won't deliver it to here!


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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:19 pm 

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I just sent one to Liverpool UK, I charged the cat $12 extra.

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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:51 pm 

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Hmm, I have some thinking do to... Cheers sir.


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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:01 pm 

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tossom wrote:
Can't order perfume off amazon, fuckers won't deliver it to here!


Okay, you know that's pretty far out when....

Heh heh.


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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:41 pm 

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Ryan Electrocution wrote:
tossom wrote:
Can't order perfume off amazon, fuckers won't deliver it to here!


Okay, you know that's pretty far out when....

Heh heh.


There is no real reason for it, but a lot of companies either refuse to deliver to here or charge a shit lot extra for it. Luckily, my brother lives in Glasgow so can get stuff sent to him and then on to me!

Oh and "here" is here -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orkney

I'm arguably the most viking on the board!


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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:49 am 

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Byoc rat.

If your handy with a soldering iron it a winner, 3 way switch adds some real versatility to my pedal.


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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 7:17 am 

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Merry christmas guys!

I owe my brother and parents a big thank you, I got this for xmas -

[youtube]Hg0yHWRceFw[/youtube}

I asked him to try out a Blackstar pedal for me, he was so impressed he bought it and took it home as my Xmas present!

I think I still need to get one of riffers pedals though...


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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 2:06 pm 
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I just use a Metal Muff. Love it.


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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:29 am 

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tossom wrote:
I think I still need to get one of riffers pedals though...

I like the way you think.

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 Post subject: Re: Recommend me a new OD/distortion pedal
PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 6:07 pm 

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The pharoah slays !!

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