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 Post subject: Steve Jobs dead at 56
PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:28 pm 
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Pancreatic cancer is a death sentence

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 Post subject: Re: Steve Jobs dead at 56
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Pancreatic cancer is a death sentence


Yep. Just ask the spirit of Bill Hicks. Age 33. Died on my birthday (before I even knew he was, to be fair).


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Same with Michael Landon whom I always loved..

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 Post subject: Re: Steve Jobs dead at 56
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Cancer's gay.

He was a visionary. Don’t know if there’s ever been an executive so closely tied to his company’s products, at least in the eyes of its customers, as Jobs. And people do love his products. Probably isn’t any other brand out there that carries that sort of loyalty. I mean it transcends being just a “brand.” For a lot of people it’s almost an ethos.

Which is weird, but I almost get it. He was the kind of CEO we wish all CEOs were. Driven by innovation (at least on the surface) more than profit and greed. He was the poster boy for the Silicone Valley duality of wealth and substance, the Birkenstock-and-ponytail billionaire.

Anyway he was important dude, and by all accounts not evil. Sad to see him go.


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 Post subject: Re: Steve Jobs dead at 56
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I've always found the Apple worship a tad nauseating but... the man did seem to "get" the market zeitgeist more than just about anyone. Compare to Gates/MSoft, who basically succeeded by monopolizing and shoving product down your throat, whether you wanted it or not. It will be pretty interesting to see where the tech sector goes now, without its guru...

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 Post subject: Re: Steve Jobs dead at 56
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We were talking about Steve Jobs, not JoshBarrisFlesh27.


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 Post subject: Re: Steve Jobs dead at 56
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Dug my iPods when they worked, and have some fond memories of the old Apple II's we had in my elementary school classrooms (Word and Number Munchers, anyone?). The vast majority of the time I found Apple's software completely unusable, though. I was visiting a friend out of town last year and tried using their Macbook Pro for some basic web browsing stuff. I kept wanting to throw the damned thing over the railings. Not a fan of their restriction of consumer hardware modification and part replacement either. Apple tax can fuck off forever, too.

Apple's always been pretty arrogant and smug in their advertising, and you have to give their marketing and PR department some serious props for pushing down some of the...questionable, decisions and practices. I don't think they back up the talk that often, but the rare occasions when they do have sucked me into believing the hype (if only for a brief few moments). That is until their competitors catch on and blow past them. They certainly did a lot of breakthrough stuff in the last 7 years or so in regards to mobile technology, and he certainly played no small role in those developments, but Apple really hasn't done a great job in keeping up. I saw the iOS 5/iPhone 4S details and thought "but, I've been able to do all of that with my Android phone for the last year."

Anyway, I'll certainly miss him and I'm sure a lot of the people that loved and hated him will as well. He was certainly the most entertaining person in the tech industry I've ever encountered.


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 Post subject: Re: Steve Jobs dead at 56
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Cancer's gay.

He was a visionary. Don’t know if there’s ever been an executive so closely tied to his company’s products, at least in the eyes of its customers, as Jobs. And people do love his products. Probably isn’t any other brand out there that carries that sort of loyalty. I mean it transcends being just a “brand.” For a lot of people it’s almost an ethos.

Which is weird, but I almost get it. He was the kind of CEO we wish all CEOs were. Driven by innovation (at least on the surface) more than profit and greed. He was the poster boy for the Silicone Valley duality of wealth and substance, the Birkenstock-and-ponytail billionaire.

Anyway he was important dude, and by all accounts not evil. Sad to see him go.



I am a big fan of Jobs and I am saddened this evening. I loved his vision, his marketing prowess, his understanding of his customers and his work ethic. I was an early adopter of Apple but when I moved into the BBS world in the early 90s and eventually the world of Internet development and marketing in the mid 90s, I left Apple behind - but with iPods, iPhones, and soon an iPad, I am making the move back (as I type this on my Windows 7 Toshiba laptop). That being said, he was no alter boy and was a ruthless business man and early in his career a real control freak and slave driver. He did mature and change over time - became wiser in some undescribable way, he had a zen like quality to him that I always liked. With him, I don't think it was PR, that was the way he was later in his life/career. But unlike many, I admire the ruthless to a certain degree - those who get what they want but still have the ability to give the market what we want (or think we want) and make the world better for it. Jobs was one of very few people who did that. Capitalism isn't always pretty and that's OK, Jobs seem to understand that, embrace it and make it work for his company, customers and shareholders. I too am sad to see him go.

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 Post subject: Re: Steve Jobs dead at 56
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RIP, Mr. Jobs. Let's not forget his contribution to Pixar as well.

In other news, Sarah Palin is NOT running for president!


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 Post subject: Re: Steve Jobs dead at 56
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Pancreatic cancer is a tough way to go, and I feel for his family. But his legacy looks like more of the same corporate greed to me, except for the fact that he made some nifty toys... Toys that contribute to our increasing interweb dehumanization and help trash the environment.


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Everything post wagon wheel is conceivably trashing the environment (locomotive breath!).

I guess the gentle medium is the ability to enrich peoples existence without making them an addict for your product. Having said that, I could not be without my ipod loaded with ridiculously obscure 60's and 70's proto and prog rock .rar dl's.

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Losing Charles Napier is a lot bigger of a deal to me than this.

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Mr Red wrote:
Losing Charles Napier is a lot bigger of a deal to me than this.




...or Darry Curtis ;(
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Napier was hilarious in Miami Blues.


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 Post subject: Re: Steve Jobs dead at 56
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Mr Red wrote:
Losing Charles Napier is a lot bigger of a deal to me than this.


Damn, didn't know about this. That's a good ol' boy I'll miss.

As for Jobs, yeah...cancer sucks, people dying sucks...but he trashed teacher's unions and took the bulk of his manufacturing to Chinese sweatshops, so I don't give him much cred beyond innovation...I'm not a mac guy and am kind of annoyed by the pop culture built around that, but you can't blame an artist for their fans, I suppose, and he did drive technology in the last couple of decades in important ways. Whether that is a good thing or not, I'm not sure, but RIP anyway, Steve-O.


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Yes, how wrong is it that Steve Jobs died of p.c.?













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Yes, how wrong is it that Steve Jobs died of p.c.?


too zune?



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 Post subject: Re: Steve Jobs dead at 56
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Cutting & Pasting something I read about him today....

In a few interviews, Jobs hinted at his early experience with the psychedelic drug LSD. Of Microsoft founder Bill Gates, Jobs said: "I wish him the best, I really do. I just think he and Microsoft are a bit narrow. He'd be a broader guy if he had dropped acid once or gone off to an ashram when he was younger."

The connection has enough weight that Albert Hofmann, the Swiss scientist who first synthesized (and took) LSD, appealed to Jobs for funding for research about the drug's therapeutic use.

In a book interview, Jobs called his experience with the drug "one of the two or three most important things I have done in my life." As Jobs himself has suggested, LSD may have contributed to the "think different" approach that still puts Apple's designs a head above the competition.


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 Post subject: Re: Steve Jobs dead at 56
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He was the driving force behind all sorts of neat-o technology.

Still, it's worth remembering the Apple Lisa, the Mac Cube, and getting kicked out of the company he founded. He took some big hits and came back bigger and badder.

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To me, Steve Jobs stands out most for his clarity of thought. Over and over again he took complex situations, understood their essence, and used that understanding to make a bold definitive move, often in a completely unexpected direction. from:
http://blog.stephenwolfram.com/2011/10/ ... -memories/


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