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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:52 pm 
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Yeah, I remember. Rob Wrong reviewed their album. Said something along the lines of "You know how some things just taste like chicken? This is the same deal." The review as a whole said the album was neither good nor bad - it just was (pretty much like what most reviews said). Sea of Green guy took offense, brought up the fact that Rob loved their previous demo, butt hurt commenced. The two got at it, then Sea of Green guy tried to hack the site, ban hammer came down, and the thread disappeared.


Heh, when was that? I must have missed it. One of my favorite shitstorms on SR.com was the Nebula/ Totimoshi tour versus clueless promoter, something along the lines of that nearly no one turned up for a gig and he blamed Nebula, then couldn't pay them (or was it that they didn't make the gig?). I think that Eddie chimed in saying that they'd had van breakdowns and it was either that they'd made the gig despite hardship and got shit on, OR they didn't make it and the promoter got pissed. But the funny thing was that the promoter made this huge deal out of it by creating a thread about it, and I guess that the Nebula guys got wind of it and tried to talk some sense with the guy on the forums.

Anyone else remember this to give better details?


It was a Boston gig; I remember that much. And it was at the venue Church, which Never Bodes Well.

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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
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Any tape by Yes is horrible to endure when stoned.

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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:20 pm 
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I know it's pretty mainstream but I'd like to nominate 'Era Vulgaris'.


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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:37 pm 

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I dig the Earthlings? stuff...


I've only heard the self-titled, but I dig it too. I get similar vibes from it as I do from Pentastar.

I've only heard the Sea of Green song from the High Times comp, but I don't remember hating it. I'm guessing it's one of their better songs?

I'm having a hard time thinking of something, but I'd have to go with whatever generic boring stuff I've come across that I've since forgotten about. That's probably why I can't think of anything... Now that I think about it, maybe the High Times comp. The crap greatly outweighed the good stuff on that thing.


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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:37 pm 
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Yes is horrible.


fixed that for you

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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
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I remember Nebula getting burned, it was by some fuckbuckles called Ammonia Booking, who continued to promote and spam shows with impunity. The excuses were awesome: "AINT MY FALT ONLY TEN PEOPLE SHOWED. AM SUPOSED 2 PAY THEM FROM MY OWN MONEY LOL"


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:25 pm 
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I remember liking Gallery of Mites just fine.

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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
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Bongzilla wrote:
I remember Nebula getting burned, it was by some fuckbuckles called Ammonia Booking, who continued to promote and spam shows with impunity. The excuses were awesome: "AINT MY FALT ONLY TEN PEOPLE SHOWED. AM SUPOSED 2 PAY THEM FROM MY OWN MONEY LOL"


I always side with the band in those cases. It's impossible for a band to poster when they're not in that city (I always think that postering for out of town bands falls on the responsibility of the club or promoter), and it's not like any band is like, "yeah, we just fucking drove 300 miles to get here, PLEASE let us play to ten people". But i've seen it happen, and i've seen the club owners/ booking guys refuse to pay bands and/ or give them a hard time. Some shows are risks for bands, since they've never played there before, and not all bands draw well in every city or area.


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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
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Ryan Electrocution wrote:
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I remember Nebula getting burned, it was by some fuckbuckles called Ammonia Booking, who continued to promote and spam shows with impunity. The excuses were awesome: "AINT MY FALT ONLY TEN PEOPLE SHOWED. AM SUPOSED 2 PAY THEM FROM MY OWN MONEY LOL"


I always side with the band in those cases. It's impossible for a band to poster when they're not in that city (I always think that postering for out of town bands falls on the responsibility of the club or promoter), and it's not like any band is like, "yeah, we just fucking drove 300 miles to get here, PLEASE let us play to ten people". But i've seen it happen, and i've seen the club owners/ booking guys refuse to pay bands and/ or give them a hard time. Some shows are risks for bands, since they've never played there before, and not all bands draw well in every city or area.


Yeah exactly. Hell, that show was Nebula, on a Monday. Experienced bookers (or hell, pretty much anyone who's in the heavy underground music scene) would know the chances for only ten heads paid through the door are pretty good. Learning lessons on how to book/run shows at a veteran bands' expense sucks..


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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:39 am 

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choose any one album of the hundreds of Euro and US copycat bands that sprung up in the early 00s.

first one that comes to mind: Good Witch Of The South - Turn


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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:47 am 
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Stoner Kings were pretty awful, if I remember correctly.


They're right up there for sure.


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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
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I know it's pretty mainstream but I'd like to nominate 'Era Vulgaris'.


Yeah this album is just plain horrible.

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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:58 am 

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Its all a bit naff, really.
There was a window in the early noughties where I could stomach some of the better stuff but I can't listen to it anymore. Formluaic Sabbath Kyuss clones, stupid fuzzy downtuned guitars with no bite or definition, unnecessarily long droning interludes that go nowhere, three piece drum kits... hehehe. For me? Non!


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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
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I listened to a few Queen Elephantine CDs that were really bad. They jump out at me. Witch's second album sucked too.


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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:24 am 
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Lurker Dave wrote:
I listened to a few Queen Elephantine CDs that were really bad. They jump out at me.



quoted for truth. this stuff is awful..kind of a 'late to the trend, of a trend that never trended' type of band.

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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
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I'm pretty sure "Late to the Trend of a Trend that Never Trended" is a song name by 90% of the post-rock Isis clones.

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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:51 am 
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yessir

and I have to say, there hasnt been, nor do I want to hear, anything worthwhile that has that distinct 'Isis sound', and I dug me some Isis. Maybe I missed the boat, but you would think some band would latch onto that sound and run with it now that they're out of the game.

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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
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I can't listen to Kyuss "Wretch" without laughing at many points throughout.

Choice lyric "Cuz I want some pussy... from a bad bitch... on a big bike, yeah."

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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
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yeah but the alot of the music on wretch is good stuff. everyone already knows that john garcia is not a lyrical mastermind

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someone mentioned the 2nd witchcraft album and that is dead on

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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:02 am 
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Karl Hungus wrote:
yessir

and I have to say, there hasnt been, nor do I want to hear, anything worthwhile that has that distinct 'Isis sound', and I dug me some Isis. Maybe I missed the boat, but you would think some band would latch onto that sound and run with it now that they're out of the game.



I heard a bunch of Isis-type bands during my reign. None really eclipsed what Isis was doing on Oceanic and Panopticon but, like the various Swedish stoner bands, what they were doing they were doing well enough. For the more discerning tastes, such as yours, that'd still be a deal breaker, but I didn't mind revisiting the choice clones after the review was published and I was slogging through the next batch of loser rock.

That, mind you, was at the beginning of the post rock trend. Problem is it blew up way too fast and way too big, so towards the end of it all, those albums were pawned off to the staff along with the guttural doom and the grind and the bad photocopy covers for CDRs. Took me about a year or so to even listen to Isis again.

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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
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what isis clone bands are you talking about? i need names

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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:19 am 
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Shit, offhand I'm drawing a blank. Tides was one that I really liked at first and then couldn't stand once the deluge happened.

Hey Colossus' II was more Celestial than the spacier shit. That one's a keeper.

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 Post subject: Re: worst stoner album of all time
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Rosetta was pretty good in that realm.

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